He, however, indulged himself to think selfishly to the point of rebellion! glad. He's a distinguished professor of religious studies at The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. GROSS: Thank you. Throughout his life, Voltaires prose covers a broad spectrum of genres. And so I don't try to talk people out of their view of heaven, but I think, actually, it's better off, you know, not living for what's going to happen after you die; it's better off living for what you can do now. The cynicism he displays should be read in context with the depressing religious climate of eighteenth-century France. So how does the Book of Revelation contribute to the vision of hell? I mean, I just - no (laughter). The angel Lucifer had a free will and made his own choices. ', Christopher McQuarrie wrote the screenplay of the 1995 movie The Usual Suspects. Instead, He created the person who became the Devil. BART EHRMAN: We're all well. A human father is a limited (and fallen) human being, so the comparison is not strictly accurate and can create some misunderstandings. He taught - his main teaching is that the kingdom of God is coming. This meager incident was enough for Nero to jump up from his seat and go into a full "mother hen" mode. And the most famous of the Gnostic Gospels is Thomas. But Jesus isn't talking about heaven because he doesn't believe - he's a Jew - he doesn't believe in the separation of soul and body. And now we have the pandemic. When he became convinced that Jesus was raised from the dead, he thought that the resurrection had started. And I still think that Socrates is the one who probably put it best. While Patouillet was insulting me in vain. The, Turks, of course, are in it, but theyre foreigners. When people need to find life pleasant and hopeful and they need to be helpful to other people, they need to enjoy life, if all you're looking forward to is what's going to happen after you die, you can't really fully enjoy life now because this is just a dress rehearsal. And so Paul thought he would be alive when the end came. He was the one who bringing them into it. All rights reserved. (Google Books Full View), 1984 October 31, The Los Angeles Times, Section 5: View, Article: Is Satan Real? (SOUNDBITE OF MICHAEL NYMAN'S "HOW DO I KNOW YOU KNOW?". Platinum Author Well, we would have to invent him, because he is necessary for the individual/ society, for whatever reasons. (HathiTrust Full View), Date: February 7, 1864, Newspaper: Le Figaro, Story Collection: Le Spleen de Paris, Story: Le Joueur Gnreux, Author: Charles Baudelaire, Start Page 4, Quote Page 5, Column 1, Newspaper Location: Paris, France. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. But my firmest belief is that whatever we believe, it should not do harm in the world; it should do good in the world. Essentially, if God didn't exist, we'd have to invent him since we still need a deity to worship. (Newspapers_com), YouTube video, Title: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didnt exist, Uploaded on April 30, 2009, Uploaded by: iPhilR, (Quotation starts at 0 minute 4 seconds of 3 minutes 2 seconds) (Video excerpt from the 1995 movie The Usual Suspects Phrase spoken by Kevin Spacey as Verbal) (Accessed on youtube.com on March 19, 2018). Is there really a God who's going to allow that, let alone cause it? Good people have believed me: the evil ones, crushed, You live in North Carolina. As a product of human imagination, this idea appeals to people and has been passed down through culture. EHRMAN: Well, yeah. Christianity's Seven Deadly "Sins" the World Will Not Forgive! How are you and your family? They believe this ominous caricature is a myth created by dogmatists who have misunderstood ancient allegorical religious literature or sacred scriptures or orally passed down stories. In Voltaires Dictionnaire des ides recues, a derate is a man with two bosses: the cabinet man and the chameau. You know, a lot of people read Revelation as indicating that people who are opposed to God - sinners will be cast into the lake of fire forever, and they will be - yeah, they'll be floating in fire for eternity. If someone wants to assume an official position, EHRMAN: The various groups of Christians that people sometimes label gnostic would cover a wide range of views. So you write that starting in the sixth century, Hebrew prophets began to proclaim, you know, that the nation had been destroyed and would be restored back to life by God. GROSS: So what do you believe about death now, about what happens after you die? Voltaire found this a text that denied the existence of a divine being. The soul was immortal and would live forever in Greek thinking. My lodging is filled with lizards and rats; Will eat ham that has been cured by Christians. God didn't create evil, never had and never will. If the heavens, stripped of his noble imprint, Miracles Don't Exist. He's a distinguished professor of religious studies at The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill and the author of many books about early Christianity. Fortunately for them, the devil does not seem to be. He chose his own path. His new book is Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife. In the new book, "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife," my guest Bart Ehrman writes about where the ideas of heaven and hell came from. Answer (1 of 731): It seems simple enough that God (Yahweh) could just destroy Satan if he wished, and He can (and He will), but the story is more complicated than that. "I think that if the devil does not exist, and man has therefore created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness." "As well as God, then." "You're a remarkably good 'implorator of unholy suits,' as Polonius says in Hamlet,"[134] Ivan laughed. We're not doing anything else. What would Satanists do without Satan to worship? Using a dictionary to explain a concept is a great way to clarify its meaning. Surely, if there are gods in the world or God in the world, there has to be justice. EHRMAN: That's a really good question. This sublime system is necessary to man. I think that if the devil does not exist, and man has therefore created, him, he has created him in his own image and likeness., Youre a remarkably good implorator of unholy suits, as Polonius, Ivan laughed. . Copyright 2002-2023 Got Questions Ministries. Copyright 2020 NPR. Evil which you know very very well. I already have a nice collection of them. This kind of thinking, though, really came to prominence at the end of the 19th and into the 20th century and hit big prominence in 1945, when we actually had the means of destroying ourselves off the planet, which we still have, by the way. We begin life with God as our Creator and Judge. He grew up among them like a little wild beast; the shepherds taught, him nothing; on the contrary, by the time he was seven, they were already, sending him out to tend the flocks in the cold and wet, with almost no, clothes and almost nothing to eat. Satan is working his way, and that it's because we're at the end of time, and he has to be released here at the end of time before God will intervene. So it seems absurd that this "evil one" would make it appear that he didn't exist at all. See Page 1. His practical deism, which stresses humanistic virtues and rejects dogma and the sanctity of the inner life, responded to the churchs dominant role in French society. While I wait, I'd find it absurd to worship God because of the devil. Within the excerpt above Baudelaire primarily employed elle, but English translators have used he instead of her. It's not going to be something awful. Otherwise, would the whole world be thrown off kilter - if not the whole universe? And so these people who converted to Christianity were principally Greek thinkers, they thought there was a soul that live forever. I try to respect everybody's views. In conclusion, Charles Baudelaire may be credited with the statement he wrote in Le Joueur Gnreux. And people started thinking, well, you know, surely I'm going to get rewarded, you know, not in some kingdom that's going to come in a few thousand years, but I'm going to get rewarded by God right away. Others felt God helped them even find their keys. If the devil created and inspired vanity in people, wouldn't he himself reflect this non-virtuous trait? In the Old Testament, what we would call the soul is really more like what we would call the breath. So now we're faced with a pandemic. Your wife more honest? EHRMAN: Well, so since these people believed that the soul was immortal, that you can kill the body but you can't kill the soul, they thought, well, OK, so our soul will go to heaven to be with God, but then they realized, well, what about the people who are not on the side of God? These works, often composed as polemics or pamphlets, puncture received orthodoxy and show a solid ironic style without overreaching. So they have very much a differentiation between soul and body. Why does God allow natural disasters, i.e. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didnt exist. But other than that, no. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. He was a Greek-speaking Jew. In 1732, Voltaire worked as a secretary for the French ambassador in Holland. Copyright 2022 - 2023 Heart Eyes Magazine -. Strange Reports from Zones Unknown and other writings of R. R. Stark can be found at: R. R. Stark now has three e-book at Amazon.com. Just because a character says it doesn't mean there author thinks it's true. Write CSS OR LESS and hit save. Answer (1 of 22): This statement was made as part of his larger argument that the existence of God and/or belief in God are beneficial and necessary for civilized society to function. What it says is that Samuel came up, but it doesn't say where he was, and it doesn't say if he was living at the time. And so he talked about living in the last days because he assumed that everybody else now was going to be raised to follow suit. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Could a Loving God Create Hell To Torment People For Eternity? Emphasis added to excerpts by QI:[1]1836, Quakerism Examined: In a Reply to the Letter of Samuel Tuke by John Wilkinson, Chapter 4: Is the Sacrifice of Christ Held in Proper Estimation by the Society of Friends?, Quote Page 239 and Continue reading. I believe his arrogance would make him want to be known by everyone. And then we'll talk about the history of ideas of heaven and hell. man and the devil are the main two actor for this cruel nonsense to occur. This information should not be considered complete, up to date, and is not intended to be used in place of a visit, consultation, or advice of a legal, medical, or any other professional. We have to self-isolate. You know, with us its beating, the, birch and the lash, thats our national way: with us nailed ears are, unthinkable, were Europeans after all, but the birch, the lashthat is ours, and cannot be taken from us. If God destroyed evil (Satan), we wouldn't be evil right now. Without a god, we would not be able to live the life we are living. Have hurled cries that are scorned by the wise man; But the kids didn't get the memo. And so they ended up shifting the thinking away from the idea that there'd be a kingdom here on Earth that was soon to come to thinking that the kingdom, in fact, is up with God above in heaven. Even Adam would have still be alive if the devil didn't show up. One of the mysteries of the Christian life is why God didn't destroy Satan immediately after Satan sinned. One of the most striking proofs of the personal existence of Satan, which our times afford us, is found in the fact, that he has so influenced the minds of multitudes in reference to his existence and doings, as to make them believe that he does not exist; and that the hosts of Demons or Evil Spirits, over whom Satan presides as Prince, are only the phantacies of the brain, some halucination of mind. They weren't Jews. GROSS: Let's take a break here, and then we'll talk some more. People have gone against his will, and so he is - so he's bringing this disaster of epidemic upon them. We'll talk more after a break. Ultimately, though, the goal of the Dictionnaire des ides rescues is to provide a framework for critical thinking. And stop biting one another for absurd chimeras." That also is the view of Paul, that people would be destroyed if - when Jesus returns. GROSS: Bart Ehrman is the author of the new book "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife.". I don't try to trash anybody's views. 56 views, 2 likes, 3 loves, 4 comments, 0 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from New&Living Way Gospel Temple: Sunday service You turn my words against me. He converted several years after Jesus' death. Manage Settings If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him This statement by Voltaire was so famous that Flaubert included it in his Dictionnaire des ides reues, and it is still frequently quoted today. Accuracy and availability may vary. Voltaire's Notes And I think that's a harmful belief. The book that I'm writing that I'm now calling "Expecting Armageddon" is all about that. But did it ever occur to them what life would be like without such a mischievous devil? But, as the fearsome enemy of this fanaticism, If these people didn't believe Satan existed, they'd have no such fear in him, and he'd be useless to them. Eventually, Jewish thinkers began to reason that it didn't make much sense because there were times when they would be doing what God told them to do, or at least they'd be doing their level best to do what God told them to do, and they'd still be suffering these plagues. And then if you want even more background on Satan's fall or some people . It made me a rather obnoxious fundamentalist Christian because I thought that everybody else was going to go to hell, and so I had to go out of my way to convert them all (laughter). It dies because we don't know how to replenish its source. 3 Tamponet was, in fact, a doctor at the Sorbonne. The angels were created as servants of God, and they were supposed to serve God in obedience. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. The original text contained the mistaken phrase your hear instead of you hear:[4]1918 November, The English Review, Edited by Austin Harrison, Volume 27, The Generous Gambler by Charles Baudelaire, Translated from French by Arthur Symons, Start Page 354, Quote Page 355, Published Continue reading, He complained in no way of the evil reputation under which he lived, indeed, all over the world, and he assured me that he himself was of all living beings the most interested in the destruction of Superstition, and he avowed to me that he had been afraid, relatively as to his proper power, once only, and that was on the day when he had heard a preacher, more subtle than the rest of the human herd, cry in his pulpit: My dear brethren, do not ever forget, when your hear the progress of lights praised, that the loveliest trick of the Devil is to persuade you that they dont exist!, Here is a 1919 translation by Joseph T. Shipley:[5]1919, Baudelaire: His Prose and Poetry by Charles Baudelaire, Edited by T. R. Smith, Series: The Modern Library of the Worlds Best Books, Story: The Generous Player, Translated by Joseph T. Continue reading, He did not in any way bemoan the bad reputation which he enjoys in all parts of the world, assured me that he himself was the person most interested in the destruction of superstition, and confessed that he had never feared for his own power save once, on the day when he had heard a preacher, more subtle than his colleagues, cry from the pulpit: My dear brethren, never forget, when you hear the progress of wisdom vaunted, that the cleverest ruse of the Devil is to persuade you he does not exist!, In 1948 LIFE magazine published a piece titled The Devil by Whittaker Chambers which included an instance of the saying:[6] 1948 February 2, LIFE, The Devil by Whittaker Chambers, Start Page 77, Quote Page 81, Time Inc., Chicago, Illinois. It just isn't going to happen. It is the sacred tie that binds society, Without the presence of a God, the notions of Good and Evil are meaningless. The bridle to the wicked, the hope of the just. In vain you raise as an objection to me the hypocritical insolence When philosophy, enlightening humanity, We have, you know, plastics in the ocean, ice caps that are melting. When we originally scheduled the interview we're about to hear, we didn't realize how weirdly timely it would be. Image Notes: Portrait of Charles Baudelaire by Emile Deroy circa 1844; accessed via Wikimedia Commons. Alas! And so Sheol is sometimes portrayed like that. Let's get back to my interview with Bart Ehrman, author of the new book "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife." Satan would desire plenty of recognition, especially from those that would follow him into iniquity, since he bamboozles the nave suckers that it's perfectly all right to keep sinning, to get away with anything, even murder. Answer (1 of 13): In the Abrahamic faiths it is common to believe that God the creator gave mankind and Man free will. (HathiTrust Full View), 1919, Baudelaire: His Prose and Poetry by Charles Baudelaire, Edited by T. R. Smith, Series: The Modern Library of the Worlds Best Books, Story: The Generous Player, Translated by Joseph T. Shipley, Start Page 80, Quote Page 82, Boni and Liveright, New York. Your forthcoming book that you're working on now is going to be called "Expecting Armageddon." And so I would be crazy to say, no, Mom, actually, yeah, you're not going to see him (laughter). GROSS: You've talked about how belief in the end times led in a circuitous way to belief in heaven and hell. The unscrupulous mayor was such a convenient scapegoat for the city's problems that if she had not existed, it would have been necessary to invent her. The Bible's answer The Bible shows that God did not create the Devil. At the sound of their voice a hundred towns are covered in ruins, We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. The - after Jesus. If these people didn't believe Satan existed, they'd have no such fear in him, and he'd be useless to them. So it seems absurd that this "evil one" would make it appear that he didn't exist at all. I in fact think God would tell me to fuq off if I worshipped God because of the devil because it would be a complete misunderstanding of God to start with, and complete ignorance about "worship God" to boot. With the treasures of the Loretto, amassed for Mary; I do not try to convert anybody. God has ordained that Satan have a long leashwith God holding onto itbecause he knows that when we walk in and out of those temptations, struggling both with the physical and moral effects that they bring, more of God's glory will shine in that battle than if he took Satan out yesterday. Nobody frets about it or gets upset by having it. He examines the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament, as well as writings from the Greek and Roman era. It got put in a grave, or it got put in a pit, and that's what they called Sheol, is the place that your remains are. A priest on the Capitoline hill where Pompea triumphed; Op you are already immediately mistaken for you know not that devil is simply, the evil, D' evil! There is hope in moments of complete despair. Existence is entirely bodily. He was raised Jewish. People who had been on the side of God throughout history would be personally raised from the dead and individually would be brought into this new era, this new kingdom that God would rule here on Earth. John Fletcher Hurst? Will your children be more obedient to your voice? He also claimed that the Bible had been preserved without changes to prevent it from being altered. Well, I am glad. Anonymous? Kings, if you oppress me, if your eminencies disdain They all adored a master, a judge, a father. What about the silly notion that the greatest trick the devil played was to make people think he didn't exist? The line about the Devil was accentuated when it was repeated near the end of the film. One after another rose to say that having to celebrate a man like Columbus every year, knowing in the 21st century precisely what he did and, painfully, what it . And of course, belief in heaven and hell has done a lot of good; it's also done a lot of harm. They were gentiles. The people who thought that maintained that this Garden of Eden would come not only to people who happened to be alive when it arrived; it was going to come to everybody. Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people? One is not a Christian because the devil exist or not..rather because he/she has come to know in acceptance the Christ within him. EHRMAN: Well, I - you know, I've read about death and thought about death and the afterlife for many, many years now and what - you know, what philosophers say and theologians say and biblical scholars say and, you know, what people generally say. So I wasn't always a pleasant person to be around because I was right and they were wrong, and since they were wrong, they were going to hell. Nobody ever believed he was real. Nobody except themselves? These people began to think that the reason there is suffering in the world is not what the prophets had said, that it - because people sin and God is punishing them; it's because there are forces of evil in the world that are aligned against God and his people who are creating suffering. He must have love because He is love, but love must be chosen. But one thing that most of them have in common is the idea that the body is not what matters. If the Devil Did Not Exist, It May Be Necessary to Invent Him in Certain Contexts September 2015 DOI: 10.4324/9781315678788-15 In book: Philosophical Approaches to the Devil (pp.180-200). But the pandemic, for me, is simply making it crystal clear why these are issues for so many people. God is punishing us. When the breath leaves the body, the body no longer lives, but the breath doesn't exist. The baby laughs with glee, holds out its little hands to the pistol, and he pulls the trigger in the baby's face and blows out its brains. EHRMAN: Well, thank you for having me. I'm wondering if you're hearing that kind of thing, too. Or it's because of, you know, one social ill or another that God is punishing. Essentially, if God didnt exist, wed have to invent him since we still need a deity to worship. This, though, is not a book that describes what's going to happen to individuals when they die and go to heaven or hell; it's a description of the final judgment of God that somehow is going to be coming to Earth. God should not suffer for the stupidity of the priest: And so I don't - it's not that I think that I believe only rational things and everybody else is irrational. And that's exactly what I think. What would God do without such an adversary to play with, or fight against? And secondly, every one of them has been incontrovertibly wrong (laughter). So you have your body, your physical being, and you have your soul, this invisible part of you that lives on after death, that you can separate the two and they can exist - the soul can exist outside of the body. earthquakes, hurricanes, and tsunamis. What ends up happening is that, over time, this expectation that the kingdom was coming soon began to be questioned because it was supposed to come soon and it didn't come soon, and it's still not coming, and when is it going to come? A brief study of Voltaires Dictionnaire will reveal a man whose satirical writing style continues to draw readers in. Scholar Weighs the Baloney and the Brimstone (Continuation title: SATAN: Expert Sifts Fiendish Fact, Fiery Fiction),, YouTube video, Title: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didnt exist, Uploaded on April 30, 2009, Uploaded by: iPhilR, (Quotation starts at 0 minute 4, Risk Comes from Not Knowing What Youre Doing, Hollywood Is the Only Place Where You Can Die of Encouragement, 1836, Quakerism Examined: In a Reply to the Letter of Samuel Tuke by John Wilkinson, Chapter 4: Is the Sacrifice of Christ Held in Proper Estimation by the Society of Friends?, Quote Page 239 and 240, Thomas Ward and Company, London. But if we do, it'll be something pleasant like that. Does God create situations? But more than that, these people needed to blame a particular entity for causing evil in the world and in their lives. CTRL + SPACE for auto-complete. One of his questions was that "Why didn't God destroy Satan before he could ever tempt Eve? I have a different set of beliefs. His earlier books include "Misquoting Jesus" and "How Jesus Became God.". They were seen opposing, in a fatal error, I hope you stay safe, too. If they aren't brought into the new Jerusalem, the city of God that descends from heaven, they will be destroyed. / Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? EHRMAN: That is fair to say (laughter). And there are two things that you can say about every one of these people over history who've picked a time. Must lead them in peace to the feet of the common master; And Samuel comes up and is really upset that she's called him up from the grave, and he gets upset with Saul for doing this, and he predicts that Saul is going to die the next day in battle, which he does. If the devil amounts to no more than religious fear tactics created by dangerous dogmatists, manipulating believers into salvation, than I'd say this shallow creature has no legs to stand on, being just a two-dimensional puppet of religious zealots to sell their wares. https://www.nairaland.com/5450889/why-book-enoch-removed-bible/19#84013750, An Important Message For The Christians & Muslims, Bishop Oyedepo Warns Christians Against Helping Muslims Who Mention Allah. The devil's power lies in bringing death. But I personally think, probably, this life is all there is. Europe has thanked me; twenty crowned heads Voltaires most famous works include his Tragiques and Epics. It has to do with the apocalypse, the revelation of God. Let's get back to my interview with Bart Ehrman, author of the new book "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife." There started to be a belief that reward and punishment would be right after death, as opposed to after the Messiah comes. And that was the view that Jesus then picked up. He will raise the dead. Bart Ehrman says the ideas of eternal rewards and punishments aren't found in the Old Testament or in the teachings of Jesus. So, it could be argued, if there were no Original Sin there would be no evil. The Moody Handbook of Theology by Paul Enns. And, you know, this time we may have it right. EHRMAN: Yeah, no, it's a good question. [pg 262] I think if the devil doesn't exist, but man has created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness. Just as he did God, then? observed Alyosha. No. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. The soul didn't exist separately. You know, California was on fire. Satan (Lucifer) did not want to worship or obey God; he wanted to be God ( Isaiah 14:12-14 ). John Wilkinson? Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Mooj Zadie, Thea Chaloner and Seth Kelley. It's a word that gets mistranslated into English. There have been a few different opinions concerning who made the following statement: "The Devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn't exist." 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